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Hey, welcome to the REAL life podcast. I’m your host Gary Winchester. Thank you so much for joining me in this episode. I’m really excited because I get to interview a really good friend of mine Erica Potts. In this episode, we talk about God, life and the Holy Spirit. This was the beginning of our interview and part of a conversation that just happened to be recorded. When I was editing I just thought, man this is really good. It’s really helpful for me to hear so maybe it’s helpful for you to hear too.
In no way are we saying you have to believe what we believe. This again is just a conversation we were having about what we believe and I hope it helps you. You can also get in touch with Erica Potts on her website at Oils4TheMend.com. In the fourth episode she explains the meaning of the name of her website. This is Episode One with Erica. There’s three more episodes after this so you definitely want to stick around and hear what she has to say. She’s an incredible woman, she has an incredible husband Dan. We love them both. Hope you love them too. And again, feel free to visit her website Oils4TheMend.com and I will link to that in the show notes on my website, Gary Winchester.com. So, let’s get into the episode.

Gary Winchester  

I really feel like God has been pushing me this year to create more content and to step out of my own way a lot. And that’s why I’m titling and my whole focus. And every piece of content I create is real life. Because I like there was a had an amazing podcast episode I created, talking, just kind of like health and wellness in general and some of the stuff I was going through. And it was 20 minutes in the car, and I had the blinker on waiting to turn into my kids school, and the blinker was killing me. The quality was good. The audio quality was good. Just the blinker was on. I’m like, I can’t produce that. So I deleted it. And my wife’s like freaking out. She’s like, I can’t believe you did that. And then the Holy Spirit tells me so Are you going to trust me? Are you going to trust yourself? Because if it’s all on you, it’s going to suck. I gave you that content to create, you create it, it’s my job to have the right people listen to and I was like, okay, and He even told me the Holy Spirit even said, algorithm, no algorithm, it doesn’t matter. I’m in control. And I was like, Okay, all right. I’ll shut up and just do whatever. So then I was getting like, all these ideas of like doing podcast episodes, like back in June, and I have like, 22 episodes that I wrote out, and could totally record and I haven’t recorded a single one because a lot of the people that I know that do radio and podcasting are like, it’s got to be super professional. Like you need to go into a studio and do it and I was like, I don’t have time as a stay at home dad to do that. And I can’t be getting pissed off at my kids when they interrupt me. So

Erika Potts    

like, come out, and God says, you know, post this, do that, and I’m like that. And then I do. But when I’ve been faithful for like two weeks straight today, I crashed and burned. And I was so down before our podcast, I actually went out on my deck, and I laid out in the sun to just I was so depressed and I knew it was an attack. But you know what, when they come, you got to take your tools. Because when you and I move forward, and then our weaknesses, depression, that’s our kryptonite. We gotta we gotta say, I can pull out of this, it might take a few minutes, I might take a half an hour. And so laying out in the sun putting on some makeup, and now I’m okay, but it got dark this morning. And literally, I’m going into the gym in the morning to a dark gym to let members in and I’ve been in darkness for four days. And I think it finally got to me, so but I’ll be praying for you as you move forward. When I see you post and I see you up. I’m going to be one of your SS repair warriors because I know the battle. There’s good days but the bad days are bad days are deep and sometimes it can get kind of dark. And yeah,

Gary Winchester   

yeah. keep you in prayer too. That’s awesome. I didn’t even think about that. That’s really

Erika Potts  

seriously like so remember when you when you review this podcast edited but I want you to remember is Eric had a battle going on half an hour before we started.

Gary Winchester 

That’s awesome. I mean, that’s awesome you had the battle but that’s new like had come out of that. That’s really cool.

Erika Potts   

Take your simple tools, the tools are simple. You just got to get them out. So

Gary Winchester   

right you know one of the things that has helped me big time, I downloaded an app called day one and it’s a journal that you can write on your phone. I know it’s not writing. I know a lot of people say physical writing is better. But, man, sometimes I’m upset and I gotta get away. So I go in the bathroom and I just start typing out like how I’m feeling. And the response of the Holy Spirit is no different when I type it out, then when I write it out And I’m like, Okay, this works because like, I mean,

I gotta bring my journals before I die, that’s for sure.

Cuz I don’t not want anybody buying those.

Erika Potts    

Seriously, you don’t want to leave them behind for people to see your soul. Man. I’m

Gary Winchester  

like, I totally thought about that. But

there’s some not nice things in there that I say about in particular people and I’m like, I don’t want them to think that’s how I feel about them because that was a bad day. You know, they triggered me

Erika Potts   

when you’re dumping so they’re not seeing when the Holy Spirit comes in. And so they’re not.

Gary Winchester    

That’s a no like I even I, when I journal, the way I journal is I’m writing to God. But ever since I was my mom forced me to journal when I was 11. And ever since I’ve journaled it’s been a note to God. Like when I’m writing it’s like, God, like I may not write Dear God or dear Lord, but a lot of my journals, old ones say that You’re done. And I just dumped it out. But as I’m dumping it out, I’ll get thoughts. And I noticed the Holy Spirit speaking to me, and I’ll write that down too. And I have one journal that is absolutely insane. Where I was in a very bad place. And there would be points where I would stop, skip this align and right, the thought that I’m having and go back. And I couldn’t remember what I was upset about. And then my mind would just dig for other things. And so, start writing that stuff out. And then the Holy Spirit would interject, and I would write down that and I remember when I was in high school, friend of mine got ahold of my journal, because it fell out of my backpack and he was like, dude, he was a rapper at the time. And he’s like, Dude, this would make a phenomenal rap song. And I was like, No, that’s my know. Like, this is closed, but no, you can’t read this. But he ended up it was funny. He ended up using it and ended up going on tour with a bunch of big name rappers. And it was his, his most popular, never made mainstream, but it was his most popular song. And I’m like, you totally stole some of

Erika Potts   

the privacy that you need between you and the Lord because that that intimacy is only between us and him, you know, audience of one. But I also, I also encourage you to consider pray about it. I’m not God, pray about whether God would have you leave some of those journals behind. The reason I’m saying that is I’m planning on leaving all of my journals behind, it’s my legacy. That’s all I have left to give is my is my communion and dialogue with the Lord. And even if my kids are seeing how raw and ugly it is, that’s why I was asking you, are you dumping but are you also writing down how God answered because I don’t know that that’s if if I found something like that if my parents journal like that, where I saw their battle on paper or typing, that would be a faith building thing, but I also want to honor that no, this is a closed book. This is me and the Lord to just take it to prayer. That’s all I’m saying.

Gary Winchester   

Yeah, no, that’s a good point. Because when my mom passed away there, she journaled all the time. And the only thing my dad gave me was her Bible. And she wrote in her Bible, like as if it was a journal.

Erika Potts   

It’s like, yeah,

Gary Winchester   

yeah, my name is all in it would like prayers. And God seriously helped us kid moments. And I know that she journaled, and I was like, I want to read her journals. And my dad said, I promised her when she was dying, that I would not let anybody read them and that I wouldn’t even read them. And so I have no idea where they are. And my dad could have burned them. So I mean, I, there’s, I do understand like, because, at first I was like the value and what I can leave behind in that, but it also worries me because the damage that I can cause by leaving that behind at the same time I keep them. I haven’t gotten rid of any of them. And so if God tells me, leave them behind and let people read them, I’ll leave them behind. And I got no point in holding on to that.

Erika Potts    

I know we won’t, it won’t matter to us because we’ll be home. But yeah, I understand. I like how you Yeah, I don’t want to cause damage, but leaving it behind you there. So that’s a good point. That’s a good point.

Gary Winchester    

Yeah. So I think if I leave it behind with the caveat of look, like understand, when this was written, understand how I like my mentality, who I was at the time, don’t go based off of who you who I am now. And think this is how I think about you now. You know, like, because that that’s my concern is like, you know, hopefully I’m like 88 years old, and my kids are old and have families and, you know, if they read them, I want them to know that’s not how I feel about you. You know, like yeah, The moment was I angry and upset and in a bad place? Yes. Did I feel about you at that moment? But yes, I still loved you. You know what I mean? Like, you know, because I think for me growing up in church, reading the Old Testament and being so Old Testament focus really skewed my view of God. God was there. He hated me, but he loved me and sent His Son, but he’s pissed off at me all the time.

Erika Potts   

God, that was me. That was me. I don’t know why where that got in my head. I’m not going to blame it on any I’m not gonna blame on anyone but my diet and to this day, I get stuck in the works. oriented love, I have to earn it. I that’s my default, man. I’m like, oh, if I’m down or if I’m sick, and I can’t serve in love, then I’m nothing. So when I’m down, I get really down because I’m like, you know, I’m not appreciating what God did for me. I’m not appreciating his love. And he’s like,

Gary Winchester 

Yeah, when I get if I’m sick and out or my kids are sick, and Or my wife sick and I freaked out. I completely panic. I have the biggest struggle and the hardest time because I feel like it’s my fault. What did I not do? Right? When did I miss doing oils? When did I miss giving this? give them their vitamins I did. It literally goes into that. Like it’s a, I go into the it’s karma. God is punishing me for not doing what he told me to do. Or crap. I watch this TV show that I knew kind of messes with my heart. And I did it anyways because I want it, you know? Yeah, I go into that spot.

Erika Potts   

It’s a blessing and a curse to have that sensitivity that you and I have as we are that empathetic Spirit because it’s great for serving people. But there’s also that curse of it becomes is we can be oversensitive and overthink things and make the mess bigger than it is that God can’t manage it and just like you opened up with, you know, God’s telling you Gary, I called you I got this. Don’t worry about the details. You know, just go Do what I said. So anyway, he’s always told me since day one sitting but

Gary Winchester   

yeah he told me that in the get go if you do the work I’ll provide the results

work he’ll he’ll do the rest.

Erika Potts

Well you’re encouraging me like crazy and what you always do you have a gift of encouragement. So whenever you and I talk I’m always encouraged to kind of it was good that we had this little thing planned today explore I was struggling. Um so thank you.

Gary Winchester  

Thank you. I’m glad to be on. I’m excited. 

Hey podcast listeners thank you so much for joining me in this episode where I talked with Erica Potts, from Oils4TheMend.com, about life, God and Holy Spirit. You can find her online at her website, Instagram and Facebook. I hope this episode helps you. If you would like to give me some feedback, visit anchor.fm/Gary Winchester. Visit my website, Gary Winchester. com for episode notes, and I look forward to any conversation we have.
Again, thank you so much for listening and I hope this episode has helped you. The next episode, Erica Potts and I will talk about fitness mindset.
Until then, have a great time.

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